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    Vinny M.

    Hi Scott,

    Can you please confirm the latest version of News Articles that is compatible with DNN 6.1.5? Is it 0.9.0?

     

    Thanks,

    Vinny

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    Scott McCulloch

    9.0 is DNN 6.1.5 

    9.0.1 is DNN 6.2.0

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    Déclic Vidéo

    Hello Scott,

     

    Can you please clarify what does it mean: "Supports journal events for Create Article, Comment & Rate on Article"
    Thanks,

    DV FX

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    Scott McCulloch

    Hi DV,

    e..g when someone creates an article, it will post an entry in the DotNetNuke Journal Activity feed.

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    Déclic Vidéo

    OK, thanks... Sorry for this silly question, I thought it was Ventrian Journal Activity and I did not find it.

    I searched in DNN 7, I do not find the Journal Activity Feed... Sorry, I am probably a noob, but where is it ???? Is it a module to be installed ?? I find nothing in ADMIN/HOST Settings... Is it available to community edition ?

    DV FX

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    Cziv

    You do not need to installa anything, it is there. in modules named "Journal" in both 6.x and 7x.

    Just add it to a page and select what kind of activity (from what modules) you want to show.

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    jaxuk

    Hi Scott,

    Any progress with moving NA to the DNN6 UX in this?

    Thanks

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    Scott McCulloch

    Some of the screens like my articles have moved across -- I'm building in inbuilt live writer support at the moment and then I'll address the form styles. 

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    jaxuk

    Awesome... would be real nice to have all the admin in my sites looking the same :)

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    jaxuk

    Scott can I make a suggestion while you are updating these forms.

    When selecting an articles categories, some users do not understand how to select multiples with this kind of form element, it'd be better if these where check boxes - it would also prevent me having to repeat myself time and again to end users that they can select multiple categories and explaining how. ;)

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    ROBAX

    I agree that the list box is not very good, although I have added explanatory text above mine. Note however that some sites can have many categories... I have one with well over 100.  If any changes are made to the selector then it does need to cope well with lots of categories at once. The treeview control with checkboxes might be suitable. That would also make the hierarchy obvious to the author.

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    Scott McCulloch

    One thing I noticed about the DNN checkbox control is that it isn't checking the boxes in DNN 7 - have you tried it in page settings -> tags ?

    To me that would be a good fit if it was working. 

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    ROBAX

    I'm not using DNN7 live yet, but I have tested it and have already complained in the DNN forums about how they are now dynamically injecting styles into the page source in order to do things like cover up radio buttons and checkboxes with their own graphical versions. The injected styles force the original browser elements behind the page, making them vanish for many sites. Basically the framework should never inject inline styles - ever. So, if you have any influence Scott, and assuming you are experiencing the same issue, by all means go ahead and say something to the core team.

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    Scott McCulloch

    Robax - can you provide some examples - I have a few blog entries to write on DNN topics and will bring them up

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    ROBAX

    I'll have to try and set something up to show it, but if you are seeing any issues with radio buttons or checkboxes in IE7 (e.g. you can't see them or they are not selectable), use Firebug with Firefox to view page source live and look for the injected CSS.

    My own system doesn't use the default DNN CSS, and I don't have DNN7 installed anywhere now, but I work on the NB Store project and have recently had to troubleshoot this problem for several store users. Of course, that was on other people's sites.

    The problem with the new DNN CSS strategy is that they are not distinguishing between the administrative UI and the external website UI created by one's website skin.

    By redesigning all of the default browser elements like inputs and buttons, they are effectively overriding the skin itself. It may be fine for DNN to want to create a consistent management UI, but no external elements should be styled... and especially not with dynamically injected inline CSS.

    This idea of skinning form fields, checkboxes and radio buttons by default in a framework is terrible for skin designers. The old default.css in DNN 2/3/4 was always a pain to override, but the new CSS is 100 times worse than that ever was. If anything, they should have removed it altogether rather than bloat it so severely.

    Anyhow.. I'll install DNN7 again try and look for something to demonstrate it.
    Rob

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    Lance Long

    "The problem with the new DNN CSS strategy is that they are not distinguishing between the administrative UI and the external website UI created by one's website skin."

    I have lamented this for a long time.  It's a terrible frustrating paradigm and getting worse. 

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    Phil Speth

    Hey Lance,

    I have really noticed this as well.  As I consider the benefits of using Bootcamp or another Framework, I see a great deal of redundancy and conflict.

    What would be cool would be to have a basecamp like Configurator that allowed you to turn on and off the default css elements.  Then a skin dev could save the settings as an xml file within their skin.

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    Lance Long

    Phil, Robax, anyone...

    To regain a bit of control I made the attached CSS files.  The zip contains Default.css from DNN 7.0.3 broken by sections into separate files that I then import as needed (See default.css and admin.css).  It also includes normalize which I prefer over reset.  Just comment or un-comment as needed by your portals.

    I recommend using in conjunction with the Client Resource Manager which combines these on server side so there is only one http request.  But, it doesn't compress the contents so I did some manual compression while leaving enough lines to easily trouble shoot issues.

    Use with caution as I have not thoroughly tested against legacy skins etc.  Refer to Default.bak.css for the original content. That said, I am using it in a production environment just fine. 

    If there is enough interest, I could start this as a project and keep versions with every new DNN release.





    default.css.zip
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    Vinny M.

    This is excellent. Thank you for sharing Lance.

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    ROBAX

    Sounds like a good project Lance. I think it's worth posting on Codeplex - might help to drive the message home. 

    I've done something similar on my own DNN system, but I'm much meaner - I basically ripped everything out except for the jquery tabs and accordion, which was getting to be too difficult and I managed to clean them up anyway. I was pretty miffed that I had reduced all my backend DNN css to nearly nothing over time and even removed the default.css, but then DNN 6 and 7 come along and vomit all this awful css over everything.

    Let us know if you post it.

    Rob

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    Steven Webster

    40 Fingers used to support a very nice and useful CSS unloading skin object.  I used it a lot to "clean" sites from default.css, module,css, portal.css, etc.  Gave me a blank slate for skinnig and controlling how I wanted things to look.  

    After DNN 6.2 it was not longer compatible with the Client Dependency Framework (breaking change) so I've suggested on DNN's Voice to include management of CSS within the CDF here:  http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Community-Voice/ideaid/182.aspx

    If you're interested in something like this please vote.  

     

     

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    ROBAX

    That's great Steven. It would be great to add a request for an option to completely unload the CDF (i.e. drop the file versioning). I've asked for that several times since it was in beta, but no luck. The DNN CDF is a joke.

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    Rodney Joyce

    Hi Scott,

    Just checking, I am still using AS 1.9.6 - does this version still support writing to the old AS Journal?

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    Scott McCulloch

    @Rodney, yes, all still in the code. 

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    Rodney Joyce

    Thanks Scott

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